From roehner at lpthe.jussieu.fr Sun Mar 23 09:39:25 2003 From: roehner at lpthe.jussieu.fr (Bertrand Roehner) Date: Wed Nov 16 18:06:30 2005 Subject: QH.R: (no subject) Message-ID: <3E7DC71D.8A63EC70@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Dear list member, This list was created in order to develop a new comparative approach which basically comprises the following steps: 1) First select a specific mechanism. 2) Identify as many historical episodes as possible which display and illustrate this mechanism, and collect the corresponding data. 3) Compare these episodes and derive some patterns and regularities. "Well and good" might you be tempted to say, "but, how can we find out whether this approach really works, what predictions does it provide, what tests do we have?" The present message gives a partial answer to that question. In a number of recent books (see references below) this approach was applied to various phenomena. As is made clear by the three steps listed above, it fundamentally relies on STRUCTURAL comparisons and therefore it is more likely to provide structural predictions, rather than predictions about the future. However, in some favorable cases structural predictions can also lead to predictions about the future. The example shown in the attached graph (pdf file) is of this kind. It is a prediction of the course of the NASDAQ made in the spring of 2000 and published (in January 2001) in the first of the books listed below. How did we come up with that prediction? First, we focused on speculative episodes defined as being episodes during which the price earnings ratio of stocks (or houses or offices) becomes larger than, say, 25. Secondly, we collected data for as many episodes of this kind as possible; this included the stock price peaks of 1881 in Paris, of 1929 in New York, of 1989 in Tokyo and a number of others. Thirdly, we studied the shapes of these peaks and analyzed the relationships between the parameters which describe them mathematically. This resulted in the prediction displayed in the graph. So far, it turned out to be fairly correct; it will be interesting to see for how long it holds. Next update in about 9 months or so. Any comment is welcome, for instance about other possible tests, and can be addressed either to the list or to myself (roehner@lpthe.jussieu.fr). With my best wishes, Bertrand Roehner References: * Roehner (B.M.) 2001: Hidden Collective Factors in Speculative Trading. Springer-Verlag. * Roehner (B.M.) 2002: Patterns of Speculation. Cambridge University Press. * Roehner (B.M.), Tony (S.) 2002: Pattern and Repertoire in History. Harvard University Press. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: nasdaq.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 3230 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://eh.net/pipermail/quanhist.recurrent/attachments/20030323/09cd9460/nasdaq.pdf